Friday, November 30, 2007

a good read

liquidat's latest blog entry is, imho, a great read. he nailed a good number of the reasons behind many of, often very difficult, decisions people made on the road to kde 4.0.

i will quote one thing from it:

[Plasma] was quite a bold decision, and a lesson to learn: while Plasma makes great improvements every day, it was and probably still is one of the most criticized features of KDE 4. There are still some bits missing until it is ready for release.


i'm totally cool with that. the article was fair and balanced, but most importantly based on thoughtful reason. that is all anyone can hope for. thanks for the article, liquidat =)

8 comments:

FVA said...

I'm sure that for every person who doesn't "get it", there are three others who do. Those who don't just happen to be more vocal about it.

These rather pointless (IMHO) ramblings/discussions are far too similar to the classic kde<->gnome flames. It seems we have three major DE's now: KDE4, gnome and KDE3 ;D

As for my personal opinion on KDE4... I compile from svn at least once a week to have a look at the progress being made. There are still a lot of issues to solve, and it's still not usable as full-time DE for me, but the 3.5.x series more than fullfills my needs for now. I've got full confidence in everyone working on KDE4, and I wish those who post their rants on the planet would consider trusting the community as much as I do. Ah well, you can't make everyone happy at once I guess..

Javier said...

I found the article rather entertaining (aside from the spelling errors making my ocd torture me) and it's good seeing someone actually speak up for the release in a positive way after dealing with all those who are too near sighted to look into the reasons behind every change.

aodhagan said...

Aaron, I must confess that I have read about the progress of KDE 4 on planetkde since the beginning. I have found myself excited about the development effort, but have recently become apprehensive about the current state based on a great many disparaging comments made by others.

That said, I tried out the KDE live CD for version 3.96.2 today. All I can say is wow!! You guys rock so hard again!! I know that not everything is polished and ready, but you can just feel the potential. The Oxygen stuff looks great, even if there are a few missing icons. Plasma is rocking my world!

There are two issues that I might not understand the configuration of that may be UI bugs. Is the new kickoff panel supposed to reopen where I last selected an application to launch? It does here, and maybe that makes good usability sense somehow, but I find having to back my way through the menu system to the beginning just to crawl through it to my next application a bit cumbersome. Second, the Plasma widgets seem absolutely fantastic, but is there going to be, or maybe its already there, a layer rather like dashboard on the Mac, so that I can bring my widgets to the foreground and dismiss them away easily? I might have overlooked how this is done, if so, I'm sorry.

Its such a great start. I know version 4.1 will be a even bigger triumph. I can't wait until all the traditional apps are ported. If the new games and overall snappiness are any indication, the KDE 4 developers have outdone themselves laying a great foundation.

Thanks for all the hard work!

Javier said...

@aodhagan: I'm pretty sure I've seen videos from KWin Composite showing a dashboard effect. I'll see if I can find it again.

soap said...

Bringing the desktop to the front was in a screencast for the Nov 18 commit digest. youtube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGYGzTDHhPg

He shows it at about the 4 minute mark. The whole video was really good IMO.

Diederik said...

> but is there going to be [..] a
> layer rather like dashboard on
> the Mac, so that I can bring my
> widgets to the foreground and
> dismiss them away easily?

iirc, that idea was actually mr seigo's invention, presented at Akademy 2005. :-p so no worries here, KDE is rocking hard!

Chani said...

and the shortcut is ctrl-f12. :)

liquidat said...

Thanks for the kind words :)
And just to be clear: I think it was a blod decission - but I also think that it was the right one :)