Sunday, September 09, 2007

triaging playground

Had a good irc meeting today with the plasma crew. We spent the bulk of the meeting going through all the code in playground and deciding where it all goes. Moving that code all around will make the next beta a lot more interesting for users.

I think the new krunner, welcome applet and completing the outstanding 4.0 features in the coming weeks in time for the RCs will be a reason to party; and that will be the end of the start for this little project.

As a side note, we need a better gobby, which we used during the meeting today. Gobby is really cool and useful, but lack of features like undo (at least in the version I have access to) and not having more advanced text editor features make it fall far below what is possible. I promise to fall in love with whomever comes up with a proper set of collaborative editing features for katepart and koffice apps. Even if gobby got a proper text editor I'd be happy; I really don't care which toolkit it is written in, though obviously being able to use the apps I already do would be a plus. Now, I know there were SoC projects for these things this year, but I'm not sure what the outcome was for them. I do know that I love collaborative editing, something I had to be convinced of by actually trying it; it added way more to the process than I expected when I first tried it in a group. In fact, it's the only thing I really like about about Writely and the only reason I put up with Gobby's insane lack of usefulness as a text editor. =)

5 comments:

just jeff said...

I love Gobby; it’s amazing to see how fast some documents (in my case, group reports for uni) can grow with a few people working on them in real time!

Gobby itself is mainly just the text editor, built on top of (lib)obby (written in C++) so, for example, a katepart extension to allow Gobby-esque interaction could be based on obby, too.

That said, I don’t know if it would be worth it. It wouldn’t be a huge duplication of effort to start from scratch, so I guess it’s mainly a question of whether obby is sophisticated enough to satisfy gearheads…

Anonymous said...

Abiword in their collaboration branch has features like Gobby and supports multi-user undo.

logixoul said...

FYI - the guy who created MateEdit once wanted to make Kate do the same.

Andreas Ramm said...

I'm the guy who wrote MateEdit and I'm still still keen to get this technology into all parts of KDE (Kate, Koffice, whatever else). Maybe it will still make it for 4.1 if I find time between real life events. I believe a concerted effort between all groups who can benefit from this would be a huge plus though in making this happen.

Cyrille Berger said...

Not forgetting that there is a plugin for collaborative work in KDevelop (teamwork). And also that the framework shouldn't be limited to text editing.