i do have a spacer between minimize and the help button though, to help improve grouping a bit for clutzes like me ;)
it took me about a day to get used to it when i switched to this a couple months ago and now i can't go back =)
btw, cool konqueror feature of the day: in an upload field on a web form, put in a URL ... say to a picture on another website ... and submit it. due to kde's rather terrific kio layer, it'll download the image from the url you put in and then upload that to the webserver. loverly.
christian: i agree 100% that we need to do better with bug reports with patches. i am sceptical that we can convince people to be better at this, though, simply because historically that hasn't worked. this isn't me giving people (including myself) permission to not care ;) but rather that i think we need to address the problem in a new and creative way. if we raise the value of the bug system for developers, maybe we'll see it perform better. one way to raise the value is to decrease the noise. i'm sure there are many other ways as well.
has anyone else noticed the alarming rate of new babies coming out of troltech's offices? congrats to both lars and lorn (and their families).
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I didn't put the maximize on the left, i double-click the title bar. instead minimize is there...
I guess most of linux users (myself included) have connected double-clicking the title bar with shading. Still shading is a feature I user more and more rarely these days, so perhaps I'll change it too (anyone really thinks that it's that usefull?)
I like the button order. In fact I used to have one like that albeit i had a reverse minimise/maximise button order
It's a hell of a lot better actually - more than I thought. I was a bit shocked. It's a lot better just to have close out on it's own, and not have to pick your way through three different icons. It might also be nicer to colour code them a bit more as an added touch for slightly better recongition.
Hey aaron, I know this is a bit off topic but as you blogged about skype a few days ago I think you might try wengo. It's GPL, uses SIP, does NAT auto configuration, has funny features such as audio smiley and skins and uses KDE/Qt for the GUI. You could give a try here:
RPM (for fedora core 4, should work for other rpm-based distros):
http://www.wengofiles.teaser-hosting.com/wengophone/beta/wengophone-0.950-2.i386.rpm
DEB (for ubuntu hoary, should work for other deb-based distros, it worked on sid for me):
http://www.wengofiles.teaser-hosting.com/wengophone/beta/Wengophone-0.950-1.i386.deb
Source package:
http://www.wengofiles.teaser-hosting.com/wengophone/beta/openwengo_src_20050906.tar.bz2
or: svn co http://guest:guest@dev.openwengo.com/svn/openwengo
http://dev.openwengo.com/trac/openwengo/trac.cgi/wiki/WengoPhoneNG
As for all the babies, it does get cold in Norway in the winter and given that it is now september, the timeing is perfect....
I like the layout of the buttons, it's a great idea to separate the close and min/max buttons.
Question: when the window is maximised, is there a gap between the buttons and the edge of the screen? I recommend not having a gap, because it makes hitting the button so much easier (you can just slam the mouse pointer into the corner and click).
You'll notice they picked up on this with the Windows start button -- originally there was a 2px gap all the way around it, and now in Windows XP it goes all the way to the corner.
I agree with superstoned.. The minimize in the top left is better, because when the window is maximized, that button is in the very valuable corner. I've had this layout for months and it's great.
@Stewart
whether or not the buttons follow fitt's law when maximized is up to the window decoration. fortunately the default decoration (plastik) does this right =)
@leo
it really depends on which people use more, maximize/restore or minimize. would take some research, but it would be worth while.
It's funny, I have the close button in the top left, and always-on-top/minimise/maximise on the right.
Since the quit button is generally in the left-most-menu, this made sense to me. However, I like your layout because it is even less conventional, and I'm a big fan of being cool but slightly original :-)
I must try putting the minimise button in the top-right like suggested above. Sounds neat.
Try adding always-on-top to the titlebar if you want to have some fun.. :-)
I have one major beef with that button setup. Not having the application icon in the top left corner looks uglier. Nope, no usability argument. It's just not as pretty.
Although one usability argument might be that you're now moving the place where the user goes to manipulate a window into two places.
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