so the kde sys admins are hard at work these days. among other things, they are getting the cvs -> subversion migration ready to go. in fact, they've got a complete KDE svn repository up and running and we're playing with it. once all the kinks are ironed out and we've kicked it in the ribs as hard as we can, the real migration will happen post-3.4 and KDE will become the single largest project to use subversion. so far, it's doing well. but it's a gargantuan task. gigabytes of historical source code, dozens of modules, hundreds of branches, acl's, commit log emails ..... and these are the same guys who take of our mail, download servers and more.
so, who are these brave and wonderful sysadmins? these hard working souls who keep us in tools and who deserve much praise and thanks? none other than Stephan Kulow, Dirk Mueller, Stephan Binner, David Faure and several other people you'd probably recognize as core developers from the project.
that's right: our release dude and several core developers are our sys admins. right about now you may be asking yourself, "How much sense that that make? Wouldn't KDE be better served with them hacking on stuff instead of doing boring drudge work?" (unlike me, you seem to speak with capitalization.)
well, you're right. it would be nice if we had dedicated sys admins that could do these sorts of tasks that were professional and reliable. but as these tasks require commitment, availability and a certain amount of trust from the project it seems to fall on the shoulders of our developers.
personally, i think there's a great opportunity for an IT consulting firm with a gaggle of qualified, experienced sys admins who do this sort of work day in and day out who would like some exposure, free advertising and community goodwill to step up and help out one of the great open source projects out there, KDE.
or maybe Coolo really does like setting up email accounts. i sure know Binner likes moving files around for me on the CVS box. ;)
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Subversion is indeed a very good piece of software and a vast improvment on CVS, especially security-wise. I don't know of anyone that isn't looking at it, even on commercial projects. Many people seem to have learned their SourceSafe lessons, and others are still in denial. Nice to hear KDE is looking at it in earnest.
I think I would lean towards Clee's thinking. I'm not sure if it is going to be 100% possible to import all of the CVS history of KDE - especially given its size. You may have to take a snapshot and move from there while leaving the CVS server up and running for traceability of the project. However, the admins may just not want two servers up and running. I know I probably wouldn't.
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